For archives, these articles are being stored on TheWE.cc website.
The purpose is to advance understandings of environmental, political,
human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues.

 

  News

Sometimes, the only way to spread peace is at the barrel of a gun

When it eventually emerges that the Iraqi people wanted this war, will the anti-war movement recant?

By Johann Hari
26 March 2003

Kenneth Joseph is a young American pastor who was so convinced that the current war would be waged against the will of the Iraqi people that he travelled to Iraq to act as a human shield.   He was convinced that he would be welcomed by the Iraqis as a hero.   Yet this week Joseph was explaining that his trip had "shocked him back to reality".

The Iraqi people told him that they saw the war as desirable, despite the inevitably high cost of civilian deaths.   (Saddam's thugs are still murdering "dissidents" who question the regime, so they were risking their lives to tell him this.)   They said — in footage he recorded on a hidden camcorder — that "they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start.   They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny.   They convinced me that Saddam was a monster."

Every single anti-war protestor should — on the basis of this evidence and similar material I have offered in previous columns about the real wishes of the Iraqi people — reconsider their view.   This is not "pro-war propaganda": Joseph was as anti-war as the most vehement members of the Stop the War coalition, but he was also an honest man who could not disregard the evidence of his own eyes.

Who are the real imperialists here: those who want to carry out the wishes of the Iraqi people, or those who want to ignore them in the name of a non-existent peace? And, yes, it was non-existent.   There is no peace if, at any time, people can be captured, tortured, burned or raped.   Read the Amnesty reports.   This was the everyday reality of Saddam's Iraq.   Only the dishonest can say that British and American soldiers are interrupting "peace"; they are interrupting a decades-long war, waged by Saddam against the Iraqi people, to bring it to an end.   Do not weep that this happening; be proud.

Of course George Bush is unpleasant; of course oil is a factor.   They know this, too, but they back the war anyway because it is the only way to get rid of Saddam.

If you honestly oppose the war and think you can defend your stance to the people suffering under Saddam, dial 00964 and then guess an 11-digit number.   Ask the civilians there what they want to happen.   Go on.   Tell them that you oppose the war, and see what they say.

Zainab al-Suwaij, the executive director of the American Islamic Congress, a nonprofit Iraqi exile group, says: "I was shocked at first [to hear his relatives criticising Saddam over the telephone].   It's very dangerous.   All the phones are tapped.   But they are so excited."   Listen to their excitement, and tell them why they are wrong.

So why, you might ask, are the Iraqi armies still fighting? Why have they not surrendered? Saddam's propaganda channels have been reminding the Iraqis of the 1991 betrayal, when the first President Bush told them that if they rose up against Saddam the US would support them.   They did as he asked, and they were gunned down.   The streets of Mosul and Basra are still studded with the bullet-holes from that terrible month.   Saddam leaves them as a constant reminder of the danger of resisting him and of trusting America.   I have seen those holes, and noted how Iraqis glance at them with a pale, chastened look.   This time, the Americans will not walk away from the Iraqis' suffering — but the troops have yet, understandably, to be convinced of this.

Once Iraqis are certain the Americans will not back off and leave them to the mercy of Saddam, they will explain why they wanted this war.   This is not idle speculation: it is already happening.   In Safwan this weekend, Iraqis called out to US and British troops: "You're late.   What took you so long? God help you become victorious."   Another person said: "I want to say hello to Bush, to shake his hand."   One woman stated: "For a long time we've been saying: 'Let them come.'   Last night we were afraid, but we said: 'Never mind, as long as they get rid of him, as long as they overthrow him, no problem.'   " This was reported in one of the most anti-war newspapers in Britain.

Those who still deny all this evidence will know soon enough, once the war is over, what the Iraqi people thought all along.   When it emerges — as I strongly believe, based on my experience of the Iraqi exile community and the International Crisis Group's survey of opinion within Iraq — that they wanted this war, will the anti-war movement recant? Will they apologise for appropriating the voice of the Iraqi people and using it for their own ends?

Confronted with the evidence of Iraqis' feelings, many of the anti-war critics will, I fear, change the subject.   They will say that, whatever the Iraqi people desired, the damage to international law was too great.   In offering this argument, they fail to acknowledge a key flaw with international law as it now stands.   The foundations for the present system were built in 1945, when the greatest threat to human life and dignity was war between nations.   Its structures are designed solely to prevent conflict between states and to secure peace in the international arena — and in this respect, they have been phenomenally successful.

What international law cannot do, however, is secure peace within nations.   The governments of, say, Burma, Saudi Arabia and Zimbabwe may be judged "peaceful"under international law, while they are butchering and terrorising their populations.   There is no peace for people living under tyranny.   International law must be changed to allow democracies to act where there are reasonable grounds (as in Iraq) for believing that the people of a country wish it, and where the regime is systematically breaching human rights on a massive scale.

Some people, such as the Liberal Democrat spokeswoman Shirley Williams, have voiced the perfectly understandable fear that the alternative to international law is "the law of the jungle".   Yet people living under a tyranny like Saddam's live under exactly that chaotic "law" — and international law forbids others to act to end it.   To focus solely on the international order at the expense of the level at which people actually live — the national — is to write off the most desperate and needy people alive.

It might seem perverse to seek to spread peace at the barrel of a gun; but the peace we enjoy here in Europe exists only because we (along with the Americans) acted with weaponry to banish tyrants.   The Iraqi people want and deserve the same.   If their wishes — as reported unambiguously by Kenneth Joseph and many more like him — are not compatible with international law, then an urgent priority once this war is over must be to reconstruct international law to make it encourage, not hinder, the overthrow of tyranny.






© 2003 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd

US destroyed Fallujah as it tries to destroy the rest of Iraq
Published on Monday, July 4, 2005 by CommonDreams.org
by Sheldon Drobny
Justice O'Connor's decision in Bush v. Gore led to the current Bush administration's execution of war crimes and atrocities in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places in the Middle East that are as egregious as those committed by the Third Reich and other evil governments in human history.
The lesson is clear.
Those people who may be honorable and distinguished in their chosen profession should always make decisions based upon good rather than evil no matter where their nominal allegiances may rest.
Justice O'Connor was quoted to have said something to the affect that she abhorred the thought of Bush losing the 2000 election to Gore.
She was known to have wanted to retire after the 2000 election for same reason she is now retiring.
She wanted to spend more time with her sick husband.
Unfortunately, she tarnished her distinguished career with the deciding vote in Bush v. Gore by going along with the partisan majority of the Court to interfere with a democratic election that she and the majority feared would be lost in an honest recount.
She dishonored herself and the Supreme Court by succumbing to party allegiances and not The Constitution to which she swore to uphold.
And the constitutional argument she and the majority used to justify their decision was the Equal Protection Clause.
The Equal Protection Clause was the ultimate basis for the decision, but the majority essentially admitted (what was obvious in any event) that it was not basing its conclusion on any general view of what equal protection requires.
The decision in Bush v Gore was not dictated by the law in any sense—either the law found through research, or the law as reflected in the kind of intuitive sense that comes from immersion in the legal culture.
The Equal Protection clause is generally used in matters concerning civil rights.
The majority ignored their basic conservative views supporting federalism and states' rights in order to justify their decision.
History will haunt these justices down for their utter lack of justice and the hypocrisy associated with this decision.
Sheldon Drobny is Co-founder of Air America Radio.
Unspeakable grief and horror
ÇáäÊÇÆÌ ÇáÃæáíÉ ááÍá ÇáÃãíÑßí ÇáÍÐÑ ááãÞÇæãÉ ÇáÚÑÇÞíÉ Ýí ÇáÝáæÌÉ (ÇáÌÒíÑÉ)
                        ...and the circus of deception killing continues...
Most recent 'Circus of Killing' click here
— 2010
— 2009
— 2008
He says, "You are quite mad, Kewe"
And of course I am.
Why, I don't believe any of it — not the bloody body, not the bloody mind, not even the bloody Universe, or is it bloody multiverse.
"It's all illusion," I say.   "Don't you know, my lad, my lassie.   The game!   The game, me girl, me boy!   Takes on interest, don't you know.   T'is me sport, till doest find a better!"
Pssssst — but all this stuff is happening down here
Let's change it!
Mother her two babies killed by US
More than Fifteen million
US dollars given by US taxpayers to Israel each day for their military use
4 billion US dollars per year
Nanci Pelosi — U.S. House Democratic leader — Congresswoman California, 8th District
Speaking at the AIPAC agenda   May 26, 2005
There are those who contend that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is all about Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.   This is absolute nonsense.
In truth, the history of the conflict is not over occupation, and never has been:  it is over the fundamental right of Israel to exist.
The greatest threat to Israel's right to exist, with the prospect of devastating violence, now comes from Iran.
For too long, leaders of both political parties in the United States have not done nearly enough to confront the Russians and the Chinese, who have supplied Iran as it has plowed ahead with its nuclear and missile technology....
In the words of Isaiah, we will make ourselves to Israel 'as hiding places from the winds and shelters from the tempests; as rivers of water in dry places; as shadows of a great rock in a weary land.'
Pelosi
 
 
US servicemen
The stovepipe — instructions [were sent] from the Top Man [Saddam]—“give them everything.”
       Civilian Death Toll in Iraq May Top 1 Million     
            —  ORB, a British polling agency, September 2007          
China EU countries Russia Japan lending money to US to the tune of $2 billion (2,000,000,000.00) daily
— Bleeding Bush strategy
US Congress debt
Am I going insane?
Kennedy slams CIA chief        
  Iraq analysis wildly inconsistent        
     Senator we did not clear the document
Trailers
Cheney: Assessment done by department of defense
Iraq analysis wildly inconsistent
Flames of war spread into Pakistan
Murder, though it hath no tongue.
 
 
 
 
Faith Fippinger
South Africa — Story of South African political emancipation
The Book of Merlyn
The beating of the drum
 
 
 
For archives, these articles are being stored on TheWE.cc website.
The purpose is to advance understandings of environmental, political,
human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues.